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ChrisMcCarthyIcon...17-06-2017 @ 08:29 
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AMH_Power said:
You really think my views would be so strong if I was a f**king cheat myself? What a first class throbber you are.
My integrity will never be in question, and those that know me will agree. I've had over 100 drug tests in the last 12 years as part of lifting and career.
You are basically calling me a cheat on a public forum and you don't know me or anything about me. It's the biggest insult you can make to me; I commit my life to it. Just because you can't leave the status of pussy without drugs doesn't mean I can't.


This is pretty much the classic "Lance Armstrong" defence, and is very much what I was referring to earlier in the thread...passing drug tests can only ever really mean you passed the test and we should probably leave it at that.
rian1987Icon...17-06-2017 @ 08:56 
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AMH_Power said:
You really think my views would be so strong if I was a f**king cheat myself? What a first class throbber you are.
My integrity will never be in question, and those that know me will agree. I've had over 100 drug tests in the last 12 years as part of lifting and career.
You are basically calling me a cheat on a public forum and you don't know me or anything about me. It's the biggest insult you can make to me; I commit my life to it. Just because you can't leave the status of pussy without drugs doesn't mean I can't.


Your reaction says to me that you're definitely on drugs.. nobody can bench over 220 natural especially at 100kg.. people who often cheat do go on about drug cheats to cover themselves.. your passed drug tests mean f**k all and I don't believe you've had 100 in 12 years.. whos paying for That?
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:06 
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I 100% believe that Aaron is 100% natural.
JohnGymIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:08 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:I 100% believe that Aaron is 100% natural.


Me too.
rian1987Icon...17-06-2017 @ 09:22 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:I 100% believe that Aaron is 100% natural.


He must have the best genetics of all time then
AMH_PowerIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:25 
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Genetics are the reason I'm drug free. My Dad died at 32 of heart failure. I don't want the same fate.

Thanks for the support of those that know me. Anyone else can really get f**ked. It genuinely kills me when people presume s**t they now nothing about.

The lad I train did 190 at 84... Suppose that's impossible drug free too?

For those wondering what I did for a living I was a soldier but spent a few year with the compulsory drug test team, each visit we did, the team was tested first.
AMH_PowerIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:28 
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rian1987 said:
He must have the best genetics of all time then


You are a fool.
yiannisIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:29 
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rian1987 said:
Your reaction says to me that you're definitely on drugs.. nobody can bench over 220 natural especially at 100kg.. people who often cheat do go on about drug cheats to cover themselves.. your passed drug tests mean f**k all and I don't believe you've had 100 in 12 years.. whos paying for That?


i know quite a few people who can bench over 220 who are drug free! I know Aaron and know his views and i also know his job and that if he failed a test his career it would be over! You need to wipe your minge and stop trying to put peoples strength down!
how come you dont put your numbers up? probz coz your a keyboard warrior and wouldn't be able to take the s**t you give!
Get a grip
RickIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:30 
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ChrisMcCarthy said:
This is pretty much the classic "Lance Armstrong" defence, and is very much what I was referring to earlier in the thread...passing drug tests can only ever really mean you passed the test and we should probably leave it at that.


The world must be a dark place with all that cynicism wrapped around it. Me, I prefer innocent until found guilty to the opposite (especially when you follow up with "proof of innocence is impossible").
RickIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:32 
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rian1987 said:
There are much worse things going on in society.. So every pro athlete that fails a test should be in prison? Come on stop talking bo***cks.. in tiny sports like powerlifting there's hardly any personal gain so it's hardly fraud is it.. and 235 bench natural? Don't make me laugh.. you're about as natural as ed hall


You've just committed libel. We are hosting it. If the other party choose to sue, we would be partly liable. I happen to believe he's a reasonable man, so I shall not delete the thread just to be safe (unless he asks me to).

Do it again and you're gone. This is your only warning.
rian1987Icon...17-06-2017 @ 09:34 
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Rick said:
You've just committed libel. We are hosting it. If the other party choose to sue, we would be partly liable. I happen to believe he's a reasonable man, so I shall not delete the thread just to be safe (unless he asks me to).
Do it again and you're gone. This is your only warning.


Like I give a f**k?
rian1987Icon...17-06-2017 @ 09:35 
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yiannis said:
i know quite a few people who can bench over 220 who are drug free! I know Aaron and know his views and i also know his job and that if he failed a test his career it would be over! You need to wipe your minge and stop trying to put peoples strength down!
how come you dont put your numbers up? probz coz your a keyboard warrior and wouldn't be able to take the s**t you give!
Get a grip


Oh grow up.. I'm not a keyboard warrior.. I've got nothing to prove to the c**ts on this site
yiannisIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:40 
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rian1987 said:
Oh grow up.. I'm not a keyboard warrior.. I've got nothing to prove to the c**ts on this site


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha your actually telling me to grow up?!?!?!
Wow... mate your a complete mushroom calling people out all the time so yes you are a keyboard warrior!
I wish i could grow up like big z does haha maybe i could be 5ft8 for my next comp not 5ft6 Wink
AdamTIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:45 
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I take everyone for their word, but 220 plus will raise questions. (I'm not saying it's near impossible).

It sucks, but that's life. Blame all the cheaters that lift less and got caught.

Ray Williams could be drug free and look at his numbers. Unfortunately many will just think he's able to beat tests.

If you're natural and being accused of doping, I then believe you have achieved your goal. Sadly every body believes Im natural, because I'm weak as piss.

Self respect matters more than anyone else.

Anyway it's a touchy subject and probably best left.
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...17-06-2017 @ 09:57 
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Rick said:
The world must be a dark place with all that cynicism wrapped around it. Me, I prefer innocent until found guilty to the opposite (especially when you follow up with "proof of innocence is impossible").


Well I am trying to take this thread away from individuals (which is always going ti lead to a s**t Storm) and back to the "disillusionment" theme of the thread...if you accept that people will do what is needed to win then you actually end up taking the performances at face value.

Is the playing field always level? Of course not, but is such a thing either a) possible or even b) desirable?

As always the above is predicated on my belief that PED's can be used with little risk...less risk than holding heavy barbells above your head, certainly.

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