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JCIcon...21-06-2011 @ 22:28 
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technical retard
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Hope you keep posting. Enjoy your knowledegable posts in both mine and others logs
dr_hazbunIcon...21-06-2011 @ 22:38 
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing
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keep posting and keep up the good work

You'd have to be a right saddo with too much time on your hands to make up those workouts, which is why I think your lifts are for real.

Mind you, I still think calling 195x5 'speed' bench and 200x5 heavy bench is pretty strange!
davycummingsIcon...21-06-2011 @ 22:56 
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he's got betty davis eyes
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So far I have just read and not posted. I have had helpful advice on other threads though.

I would love to see some vids just because I love seeing vids of heavy lifts.

I hope you keep up the log and keep sharing your knowledge with others. The whole point of the site is to share training tips etc, and I value your contributions.

And, am I jealous of your lifts, HELL YES!!
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...21-06-2011 @ 23:14 
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Still got a little bit of strength
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dr_hazbun said:
You'd have to be a right saddo with too much time on your hands to make up those workouts, which is why I think your lifts are for real.


Well, there are some right cocks on the internet. One example springs to mind instantly!

I'm a believer in this guy's lifting... I think.

It's a shame we can't have a vid. If he had a camera like mine the blur would maintain his anonymity!

Happy
FatpeteIcon...22-06-2011 @ 07:34 
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Hyper obese Pete
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MasterT said:I don't really see what I would gain relating to my numbers, I am on a public site, my knowledge speaks for itself and as I am not and have no intention of competing they are not relevant to anyone.
Seems very strange people are than unhappy with their own lifting that they feel the need to be negative about others, I suppose it boils down to their own insecurities as people.


What you would gain is the satisfaction of hoodwinking a large number of people, rather like a first-class april fool by a national newspaper or a tv channel.

Look at it from the other side of the fence, up pops a knowledgeable chap who as a powerlifter is breaking all the IPF records by an average of 50 kilos per lift, but won't get on a platform, won't show videos, won't say where he lives or trains. He can also do olympic lifts that would have won world titles for the past five years, but again, can't be bothered.

Strength sports are prone to people claiming allsorts of stuff, more's the pity. I have lifted for over thirty years and have heard many, many tales of impressive lifts, the bulk of which, sadly turned out not to be true. Some were manufactured out of nothing, and some were based on something much less and then massaged and inflated somewhat.

I will be perfectly honest with you. I don't believe your numbers. The only parts of the log I do believe are the bits were you took your kid to the zoo and the bit were you got stuck in traffic.

I realize that if I am wrong in this I will owe you a huge apology and if ever I am proved to me wrong, you will get one. But until that day comes, I will continue to disbelief. The reason is nothing to do with my being insecure, it is to do with the fact that you have made claims that are just too much for me to swallow.

However as a fellow lifter, I do wish you good luck and good health.
IrishMarcIcon...22-06-2011 @ 07:57 
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Post Edited: 22.06.2011 @ 08:06 AM by IrishMarc
Fatpete said:
What you would gain is the satisfaction of hoodwinking a large number of people, rather like a first-class april fool by a national newspaper or a tv channel.
Look at it from the other side of the fence, up pops a knowledgeable chap who as a powerlifter is breaking all the IPF records by an average of 50 kilos per lift, but won't get on a platform, won't show videos, won't say where he lives or trains. He can also do olympic lifts that would have won world titles for the past five years, but again, can't be bothered.


His PB snatch and clean and jerk would have placed him 32nd in the 105 class at last years world champs which he says where done at 120 BW.

I would like to think that after lifting for a long time that 330/220/350+ are achievable goals or else I am quitting now.

Given a 335 squat a 140 snatch and 180kg mong clean is perfectly achievable even without a reasonable grasp of technique especially at 120 BW.

One egg clegg is very close to this guys levels of strength at a younger age, hixxy isn't a kick in the arse off at the age of 25. There are people at this weight who are stronger I'm sure Dolega, klokov and co could put up massive numbers if they trained statically for a while.

A video would shut everyone up but I don't see why in principal these levels of strength are unobtainable by a reasonably gifted athlete with a long time in the sport.
FatpeteIcon...22-06-2011 @ 08:08 
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Post Edited: 22.06.2011 @ 08:10 AM by Fatpete
Wigan said:With the numbers you are playing with on the WL movements you could quite easily win the World Masters Championships, in fact there hasnt been a winning total in excess of your numbers since 2006.


Wigan is a thorough chap in his checking
IrishMarcIcon...22-06-2011 @ 08:13 
no really Irish
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Post Edited: 22.06.2011 @ 08:13 AM by IrishMarc
I didn't read wigan's post to be fair and hence refereed to the open worlds from last year..
mrstruanIcon...22-06-2011 @ 08:55 
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Keep posting, the strength levels are inspirational and the knowledge that you give out is also very helpful.
streakIcon...22-06-2011 @ 20:51 
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CMon man hurry up and update. I can't wait :-)

I'm really interested to see how you adjust after your 8 week mesocycle. Your numbers are just staggering. I love it!

I'm thinking about starting a log. The input from users on the site is pure gold!
1369philIcon...23-06-2011 @ 14:42 
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doesnt work hard enough in the gym
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Bump for an update
ThingIcon...23-06-2011 @ 15:11 
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thanks for the tips yesterday
MasterTIcon...23-06-2011 @ 20:18 
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Fatpete said:
What you would gain is the satisfaction of hoodwinking a large number of people, rather like a first-class april fool by a national newspaper or a tv channel.
Look at it from the other side of the fence, up pops a knowledgeable chap who as a powerlifter is breaking all the IPF records by an average of 50 kilos per lift, but won't get on a platform, won't show videos, won't say where he lives or trains. He can also do olympic lifts that would have won world titles for the past five years, but again, can't be bothered.
Strength sports are prone to people claiming allsorts of stuff, more's the pity. I have lifted for over thirty years and have heard many, many tales of impressive lifts, the bulk of which, sadly turned out not to be true. Some were manufactured out of nothing, and some were based on something much less and then massaged and inflated somewhat.
I will be perfectly honest with you. I don't believe your numbers. The only parts of the log I do believe are the bits were you took your kid to the zoo and the bit were you got stuck in traffic.
I realize that if I am wrong in this I will owe you a huge apology and if ever I am proved to me wrong, you will get one. But until that day comes, I will continue to disbelief. The reason is nothing to do with my being insecure, it is to do with the fact that you have made claims that are just too much for me to swallow.
However as a fellow lifter, I do wish you good luck and good health.


I would hazard a guess as you have suggested it that hoodwinking as you put it garners you with some kind of satisfaction?

I’m afraid your facts and reasoning is slightly skewed too, my lifts were done in a gym – not in a three lift competition with the added stresses etc. My bests were achieved at a much heavier weight than now and as stated I am a good repper but my maxes are not much over my reps and never have been, I guess I’m just not aggressive enough or don’t want it enough, I lift for the love of it nothing more.
The IPF don’t have historically that many raw meets that include the top lifters, wait until you see the results from the raw world championships now they are up and running then tell me I out lift them by an average of 50 kilos per lift.

I will be perfectly honest with you, I don’t really care if you do or do not believe my numbers. It was posted to keep a log to track progress not to impress you believe it or not.

I stick to my guns and do state it’s an insecurity, if you were the type who was not overly concerned if somebody was lifting bogus numbers simply put you would not waste time posting about it, but your desperation to have a dig in a sardonic fashion is obvious and puerile at best. Just because you can’t perceive numbers yourself does not mean they are not attainable. Some people prefer to constructively criticise rather than post petty jibes.

shanejer said:No offence masterJ bUt sugden is quite a small tight nit community with ALOT of strong people and knowledgable people, you turn up out the blue with insane numbers, world class numbers not only in powerlifting but strongman and Olympic lifting , and you refuse to reveal your identity .. That's fine, you refuse to share your gym and location... That's fine ..

BUT

Why cant you post 1 or 2 videos of you squatting or deadlifting or even benching ?? Put a hoodie on face away from the camera no one knows who you are ..

Ubfortunalty seeing is Believing. And although I believe your. Numbers it is somewhat offensive and insulting to join this forum claim massive lifts for a few weeks then Piss off, which IMO only makes you out to be more of a troll ..

1 video of 340 deadlift stood on a plate would shut everyone up but you refuse?? Fair play .. Crawl back into your fantasy !!


Prey tell why it is offensive? If someone wishes to keep anonymity why do you feel you have the right to show distain and venom to such a simple request? Does it make any advice I have given useless?

Unfortunately the rather poor attempt at reverse psychology is not going to work with me, accusations of being offensive followed by telling someone to ‘crawl back into a fantasy’ is hypocritical at best.

And I do refuse; the real question is why should I HAVE to post up a video to satisfy people, or to satisfy you? Do you police the internet for such things, do you have more right than me to use this site in a chosen was as recreational. I may not yet engage in the banter but have been happy to give educated advice where I see fit and to those who have asked or been more positive towards me.

What would stop me posting a video using fake weights? I have seen duplicate 50s & 25s easily made for foolish pranks – why don’t I just get those and show you if I were a ‘troll’ as you put it, surely that would further strengthen my position if it were to bamboozle people?

Wigan said:
Apologies of my questions etc have alienated you in some way. I can assure you there is no bitterness coming from me, I am just very curious as to who you are. As Kev has said, weightlifting is a fairly small and tight community so if someone comes along who is obviously an excellent lifter you cant blame us for wondering who you might be.
I shall keep my questions to my nosy self and just lurk in your log from now on. Please keep posting, I find your log most interesting.Wink


They haven’t in the slightest, your posts have been quizzical but have not appeared sarcastic or going for a jibe.

dr_hazbun said:keep posting and keep up the good work

You'd have to be a right saddo with too much time on your hands to make up those workouts, which is why I think your lifts are for real.

Mind you, I still think calling 195x5 'speed' bench and 200x5 heavy bench is pretty strange!


Its quite straightforward really, the heavy bench I train with a brief pause on the chest and then move the bar as fast as possible, with speed bench I move the bar much faster (while still under control) and aim to have the press phase much faster than on heavy day.
This routine was to target speed of the chest, I may well be able to muscle up more than 200 x 5 but it’s not going to be working what I want it to be working.
bignige1986Icon...23-06-2011 @ 20:24 
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Wheres the trainin mate? f**k everyone else im interested keep postin Grin
VanillaGorillaIcon...23-06-2011 @ 20:29 
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As a genuine question, and not a cheap attempt to garner information (I don't really care who you are lol) who do you coach? Are you contracted, or do you take private clients? I ask because 1, I work in the industry too, and 2, because I could learn a lot off you! Grin

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