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VanillaGorilla | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 22:37 | |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Superb numbers mate. There's something Misha-esque about big numbers in PL, WL and strongman | ||
MasterT | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:23 | |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | bignige1986 said: Ahh this does explain a few things, one of the things im trying to improve big time atm is my lockout, im doing a lot of low end reps and 80% singles trebles etc, also implementing sldl, apart from this would you reccomend anything else ie snatch grip deads ..... anythin .... ?? Snatch grip deadlifts are pointless unless you perform the snatch. First thing I would look at is technique at the lockout, I have seen many people with gigantic partial pulls due to the position there are in, but they cannot replicate this from the floor. If your technique is decent then I would suggest overloading the lockout for short cycles with varying heights (try 3 weeks at a given height). Are you doing stiff leg deadlifts or Romanian deadlifts? Romanian deadlifts have a better carry over to the regular deadlift. Focus on movements that generate hip drive such as powercleans. Usually Olympic lifters have excellent deadlift lockouts due to such repetitive training and focus on optimal pulling lines. Do you train with anyone with any Olmypic experience? Perhaps get their eye on your pull position. | ||
MasterT | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:25 | |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | VanillaGorilla said:Superb numbers mate. There's something Misha-esque about big numbers in PL, WL and strongman Oh I don't profess to be any good at strongman events. I very much enjoy watching them but I have only tried a few things. I am poor at moving events such as the yoke and farmers walk. I am ok at the log if I can clean it. Never tried an Axle or other object other than stones from a former stone lifting champion I worked with in Aus. I tried the Atlas stones without any glue, I was OK on lighter ones but my short arms did not fair so well on the heavier stones that day. | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:31 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | MasterT said: It would not be acceptable for me professionally to compete in the WPC. Hi! Excellent numbers....my only real curiousity about your cryptic identity relates to this. Why exactly would it not be professionally acceptable for you to compete in the WPC? Is it just the WPC? Would it be acceptable for you to compete in a tested fed, or would it for some reaoson not be acceptable for you to compete at all anywhere? Thanksyou! | ||
MasterT | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:33 | |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Hi! Excellent numbers....my only real curiousity about your cryptic identity relates to this. Why exactly would it not be professionally acceptable for you to compete in the WPC? Is it just the WPC? Would it be acceptable for you to compete in a tested fed, or would it for some reaoson not be acceptable for you to compete at all anywhere? Thanksyou! It would relate to any untested federation and yes I could compete in a tested federation if I so chose. I saw some of your recent results, I did not realise you were on this site. Excellent deadlifting! Very impressive | ||
bignige1986 | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:56 | |
Taleban says his views on women are extreme Member 639, 3518 posts SQ 10, BP 10, DL 1030.0 kgs @ 10kgs Eq | MasterT said: Snatch grip deadlifts are pointless unless you perform the snatch. First thing I would look at is technique at the lockout, I have seen many people with gigantic partial pulls due to the position there are in, but they cannot replicate this from the floor. If your technique is decent then I would suggest overloading the lockout for short cycles with varying heights (try 3 weeks at a given height). Are you doing stiff leg deadlifts or Romanian deadlifts? Romanian deadlifts have a better carry over to the regular deadlift. Focus on movements that generate hip drive such as powercleans. Usually Olympic lifters have excellent deadlift lockouts due to such repetitive training and focus on optimal pulling lines. Do you train with anyone with any Olmypic experience? Perhaps get their eye on your pull position. I must say awesome amount of knowledge mate, i can see why master t is your username, Basically my from the floor lifts/18" deads etc are pretty much the same sadly.... I have oly friends at osg but i live miles away and train alone (billy no mates) would you say heavy triples from 14/18" etc and just brlow the knee ? Thanks for the advice btw | ||
bignige1986 | ... | 08-06-2011 @ 23:58 | |
Taleban says his views on women are extreme Member 639, 3518 posts SQ 10, BP 10, DL 1030.0 kgs @ 10kgs Eq | Oh ps i thought romanian deads and sldl were pretty much the same | ||
Wigan | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 07:34 | |
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6833 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | If you're snatching 145 from hang and clean and jerking 165 for a mixed up set of three then you could turn up at the British champs treat it as a workout and very likely walk away with title. Surely this would add kudos to your professional standing in the coaching arena with little effort. Fancy it? | ||
Wigan | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 07:34 | |
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6833 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | If you're snatching 145 from hang and clean and jerking 165 for a mixed up set of three then you could turn up at the British champs treat it as a workout and very likely walk away with title. Surely this would add kudos to your professional standing in the coaching arena with little effort. Fancy it? | ||
BigMacca | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 10:15 | |
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9941 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | I've only just stumbled across this log - Good god you're a strong boy With you massive amount of training knowledge, I'm sure you will be a great addition to this site - I hope you stick around for a good while. Awesome lifting! Macca | ||
JC | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 10:53 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:You seem like a decent chap, and haven't started talking bulls**t to people, so you're ok in my Book. I'm sure he'll slepp better tonight Smalls knowing this Huge session once again T.....superb partial deadlifts | ||
Simeon | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 11:00 | |
tight in the hole Member 2057, 3121 posts SQ 205, BP 140, DL 260605.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.06.2011 @ 11:06 AM by Simeon bignige1986 said:Oh ps i thought romanian deads and sldl were pretty much the same I think the difference between sldl and romanian is that the bar stays close to the body in romanian deadlifts, but goes away from the body with the sldl (more like the mechanics of a GM but in your hands). That's what i've always thought... could be wrong though | ||
MasterT | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 19:50 | |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | bignige1986 said: I must say awesome amount of knowledge mate, i can see why master t is your username, Basically my from the floor lifts/18" deads etc are pretty much the same sadly.... I have oly friends at osg but i live miles away and train alone (billy no mates) would you say heavy triples from 14/18" etc and just brlow the knee ? Thanks for the advice btw I would certainly video some lifts and ask for honest criticism, the more eyes that see it the better really. It is worth working on the segments of the lift, varying height rack pulls building the strength to go above and beyond your deadlift from the floor. For from the floor strength several things can be done, the first and most important is correcting the start position – the use of the legs to drive upwards is vital unless you are a genetically gifted deadlifter, for those of us who are not long levered using all of the strong muscles most certainly assists the lifting. Mark Clegg from this site deadlifts in much the same way as I do, leg drive to the knee then due to position the lockout is relatively simple. Perhaps watch some of his videos Simeon said: I think the difference between sldl and romanian is that the bar stays close to the body in romanian deadlifts, but goes away from the body with the sldl (more like the mechanics of a GM but in your hands). That's what i've always thought... could be wrong though A stiff leg deadlift is stated from the top – as in a standing position, the legs remain straight (hence the name) and the hips are thrust back throwing the emphasis onto the glutes and hamstrings. For most people the legs will become tight when the bar slides past the knee, the bar is raised by contracting the hamstrings and glutes. A Romanian deadlift starts from the floor, the back is kept flat and a slight bend in the legs. It is essentially a high hipped deadlift. Wigan said:If you're snatching 145 from hang and clean and jerking 165 for a mixed up set of three then you could turn up at the British champs treat it as a workout and very likely walk away with title. Surely this would add kudos to your professional standing in the coaching arena with little effort. Fancy it? Sadly that says more for the current state of weightlifting in the country than my own abilities. I would never want to turn up with the numbers I use and claim a national title; quite honestly I would be embarrassed to do so and it would add nothing to my standing in my opinion. This is besides the point really anyway as I have no real interest in competing at the current time. I should have clarified that the snatch was from blocks set at that height not a hang – I am very poor at hang cleans truth be told. | ||
MasterT | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 19:54 | |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | Today's training - tight on time so had to be a quick one Power clean & Power Jerk 60 x 5 90 x 5 110 x 2 120 x 2 130 x 2 140 x 1 x 4 sets Glute Ham Raises BW x 8 10 x 8 15 x 8 20 x 8 25 x 5 | ||
shanejer | ... | 09-06-2011 @ 20:37 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Beast ... Do you squat low bar or Olympic style ? I squat Olympic style but most of the top squatters go low bar and I was wondering it was worth making the switch? Struggle to get the bar right though ! | ||