'You've got the passion but not the gift'

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IainT		...	12-04-2012 @ 11:43
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts	Post Edited: 12.04.2012 @ 11:44 AM by IainT Definitely don't have the gift, in fact have the anti-gift really. But, I enjoy it and it helps me stay reasonably healthy. But, I have decided in the last year or so to cut down the time a bit, and try not to f**k myself up in pursuit of things that are likely beyond me. For a time I wanted to be the strongest person with my condition, but now I just want to be able to squat, run up stairs and do chin-ups 10 years from now. Doing that in 20 would be fantastic.

slimsim		...	12-04-2012 @ 11:45
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	chaos said: If your form Chorley I would doubt it, shoplifting in the morning, smack in the afternoon, booze and feetin at night!!!! Have you been googling my name?! I love the way you've managed to convert the Chorley accent to type with "feetin". It looks like some weird fetish when written down though!

deleted2_20210523		...	12-04-2012 @ 11:48
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215 502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq	deleted

WILLSAN		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:00
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	I love strongman but there is lots more to life than lifting weights. I wouldnt have understood that in my early 20's though! no offence sam but I think your mate is right. working the doors just so I could train doesnt sound like a good long term life plan to me! maybe he is saying that because he doesnt want you to to waste you potential rather than being jealous of you?

IrishMarc		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:01
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	Gingy said:100 years from now you will be dead. 10,000 years from now (which seems like a long time but in the grand scale of stuff it's not even the blink of an eye) everyone you know will be well dead and also well forgotten, whether they could bench 300kg or they were worth £3 Billion. Currently there are close to 2 Billion people in China and they give as much of a st about you as an individual as you do about each of them as individuals. There is only pressure on you to be "great" if you decide to conform to someone else's model of what great is. The ONLY thing you can do for the next 80 years (being optimistic) is have a good time, not living with fear of underachieving, because not one of us actually will achieve anything of true "significance." If you have true passion for something, that's more than the majority of people can even comprehend. I'd say I'm passionate but am, hypocritically, too afraid of letting everyone else down in other avenues of life to discover whether I actually have a gift (although I doubt I do...). At least you're giving yourself a fking good chance of knowing this for sure! Keep smashing it Sam, for as long as it makes you happy. If there's some ct who makes you feel bad for it just remember he'll be dead and cold for just as long as you are (fking ages) and the universe will not remember his fantastically mediocre career Good post.

slimsim		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:08
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said:I love strongman but there is lots more to life than lifting weights. I wouldnt have understood that in my early 20's though! no offence sam but I think your mate is right. working the doors just so I could train doesnt sound like a good long term life plan to me! maybe he is saying that because he doesnt want you to to waste you potential rather than being jealous of you? I actually agree Will, however, just to play devils advocate if Sam enjoys working the doors, has enough money to spend on the things he wants to spend it on and enough to pay the bills then ultimately, why bother doing anything else?

chaos		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:10
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300 732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	slimsim said: Have you been googling my name?! I love the way you've managed to convert the Chorley accent to type with "feetin". It looks like some weird fetish when written down though! Yep should ahve said 'at neet' though


chaos		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:12
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300 732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	slimsim said: I actually agree Will, however, just to play devils advocate if Sam enjoys working the doors, has enough money to spend on the things he wants to spend it on and enough to pay the bills then ultimately, why bother doing anything else? Fair point, bit you need to plan for later in life as well, being the boring old fart here, but I don't think bouncing is gonna provide for you and your family in your old age (correct me if i'm wrong) but you need summat that can give you that option I think

FAT_SAM		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:14
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 335 1015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq	Some very interesting responses, thanks to all. I think I am genetically gifted in some areas due to my build (pressing) - but the same attributes (short arms, short torso etc) mean that deadlifting doesn't come naturally to me. Poor flexibility and cardio puts me at a disadvantage in some things but this is down to me being lazy and not working on them. This needs to change this year. I am guilty of working harder on my strengths than our weaknesses (most of us do this). In my opinion someone giving me 'the gift' would be to quite simply increase my deadlift by 40-50kg. Would give me a chance at becoming a decent strongman and of totalling big in raw PL.

pandion		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:19
Member 2407, 219 posts	If I had a time machine id do loads differently but number 1 would be a trade or uni. If everything else goes to st you can get through it as long as your earning. I would have struggled like fk with the paperwork or been skint on an apprenticeship for 3/4 years but in the long run better off.

WILLSAN		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:19
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	slimsim said: I actually agree Will, however, just to play devils advocate if Sam enjoys working the doors, has enough money to spend on the things he wants to spend it on and enough to pay the bills then ultimately, why bother doing anything else? I think if sam was 100% sure he was making the right choices he wouldnt be looking for confirmation of that on here. life is a long game and you only get one go at it!

FAT_SAM		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:20
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 335 1015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said:I love strongman but there is lots more to life than lifting weights. I wouldnt have understood that in my early 20's though! no offence sam but I think your mate is right. working the doors just so I could train doesnt sound like a good long term life plan to me! maybe he is saying that because he doesnt want you to to waste you potential rather than being jealous of you? Yeah my age does have a lot to do with it. My mate used to do exactly the same as me a few years ago but when the gains stopped for him he moved on. Maybe he genuinely cares, maybe he is being a cock, hard to say with this one. If I got injured and couldn't work or lost my badge, I would be f**ked - so he does have a point. My current lifestyle is the best for making gains in the gym, though.

FAT_SAM		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:22
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 335 1015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said: slimsim said: I actually agree Will, however, just to play devils advocate if Sam enjoys working the doors, has enough money to spend on the things he wants to spend it on and enough to pay the bills then ultimately, why bother doing anything else? I think if sam was 100% sure he was making the right choices he wouldnt be looking for confirmation of that on here. life is a long game and you only get one go at it! I made this thread to discuss passion vs genetics, and whether people consider it worthwhile to put so much into training if they don't think they have 'the gift'. I'm happy with 'life' as a whole.

pandion		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:27
Member 2407, 219 posts	FAT_SAM said: I made this thread to discuss passion vs genetics, and whether people consider it worthwhile to put so much into training if they don't think they have 'the gift'. I'm happy with 'life' as a whole. Even the best genetics and dedicated passion is only 1 injury away from f**k all mate. Unless its a popular sport and warrants a huge insurance payout.

slimsim		...	12-04-2012 @ 12:31
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 12.04.2012 @ 12:34 PM by slimsim EDIT: scrapped this post because of Sam's post explaining he is happy with life in general. If training makes you happy who cares if you have the gift? As long as you appreciate that there are some who are more gifted and may beat you with less effort. As Gingy said, you should do everything for personal satisfaction cos you'r a long time dead and can't turn back time

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