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JackRevans		Question about protein	19-03-2017 @ 07:07
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	This question has kind of been driving me mad for a while now. I have been lead to believe that when you consume excess protein you piss it out. I have also been lead to believe that when you consume excess protein you store it as fat. Which one is it? I understand that excess callories are stored as fat, that makes a great deal of sense. But how does one simultaneously store protein as fat while pissing it out? Perhaps I am getting confused somewhere. Also a sperate but related question. Do individual amino acids have the same calorie density? Like if you had 10g of pure leucine would that be exactly the same 40kcal as if you had 10g of protein made up of a veritable plethora of amino acids? Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm just having a hard time getting my head round the concepts.

BigMacca		...	19-03-2017 @ 10:18
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9942 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5 682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq	JackRevans said:This question has kind of been driving me mad for a while now. I have been lead to believe that when you consume excess protein you piss it out. I have also been lead to believe that when you consume excess protein you store it as fat. Which one is it? I understand that excess callories are stored as fat, that makes a great deal of sense. But how does one simultaneously store protein as fat while pissing it out? Perhaps I am getting confused somewhere. Also a sperate but related question. Do individual amino acids have the same calorie density? Like if you had 10g of pure leucine would that be exactly the same 40kcal as if you had 10g of protein made up of a veritable plethora of amino acids? Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm just having a hard time getting my head round the concepts. Homo!

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	19-03-2017 @ 11:39
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22041 posts	I don't know what you're talking about, but I did enjoy your use of the word "plethora".

JackRevans		...	19-03-2017 @ 14:22
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Wayne_Cowdrey said:I don't know what you're talking about, but I did enjoy your use of the word "plethora". It seemed more appropriate than "cornucopia" in the context of nutrition

scruffmcbuff		...	19-03-2017 @ 18:17
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300 750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq	JackRevans said: It seemed more appropriate than "cornucopia" in the context of nutrition A cornucopia is always best used in reference to opiates. Your bedevillement of protien could be answered by CAJ if he breaks his vow of silance.


CAJ		...	19-03-2017 @ 19:26
I recommend the track - Slut Machine Member 6043, 955 posts SQ 350, BP 195, DL 350 895.0 kgs @ 150kgs UnEq	Hello. Jacques, Amino Acids, 4 kCal per gram in any configuration, be it solitary isolation or vast cornucopia. Excess protein is converted to glucose which can be used for energy or stored as fat, I vaguely remember this process involving the stripping of nitrogen molecules and it's these nitrogen waste products which are pissed out. So you're not pissing out protein so to speak, you are converting it to glucose for energy and pissing out the byproducts which is why some people argue excessive protein intake is harsh on the kidneys due to processing/filtering of all those nitrogen nasties. That should answer the bulk of your question as I understand it. I'm not a biologist or chemist or biochemist but I am a toastie enthusiast. X

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	19-03-2017 @ 22:19
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22041 posts	Maybe stefan should be consulted on this.

Nimble		...	20-03-2017 @ 06:27
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260 550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	CAJ said:Hello. Jacques, Amino Acids, 4 kCal per gram in any configuration, be it solitary isolation or vast cornucopia. Excess protein is converted to glucose which can be used for energy or stored as fat, I vaguely remember this process involving the stripping of nitrogen molecules and it's these nitrogen waste products which are pissed out. So you're not pissing out protein so to speak, you are converting it to glucose for energy and pissing out the byproducts which is why some people argue excessive protein intake is harsh on the kidneys due to processing/filtering of all those nitrogen nasties. That should answer the bulk of your question as I understand it. I'm not a biologist or chemist or biochemist but I am a toastie enthusiast. X This. Excess protein might also increase protein turnover, i.e the breaking down and rebuilding of muscle tissue etc. but without it leading to gains in leans mass (MPS = MPB). There is some evidence that too high protein:carbs ratio may have a -ve impact on test levels, but i'm not sure how conclusive this is.

JackRevans		...	20-03-2017 @ 11:05
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Enjoyable answer, thank you very much. How do you know so much about the topic?

CAJ		...	20-03-2017 @ 11:12
I recommend the track - Slut Machine Member 6043, 955 posts SQ 350, BP 195, DL 350 895.0 kgs @ 150kgs UnEq	JackRevans said:Enjoyable answer, thank you very much. How do you know so much about the topic? I am quite well educated in stuff like that, not to the extent that some in here are but I have a decent understanding, even more so with my venturing into the world of soft tissue work as the more you know about anatomy and physiology the better you will do

BrenWad		...	08-04-2017 @ 09:43
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310 805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Never noticed any difference between eating 150grams per day or 300 grams per day. Unless you are juicing like Phil Heath and co it is pointless consuming huge amounts of protein in my experience.

unit94		...	08-04-2017 @ 16:46
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	Gluconeogenesis is the process of producing glucose from non carbohydrate sources, in this case protein. So protein can lead to fat gain however it will be a less efficient process for the body than simply breaking down carbs into glucose.

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