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» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)28-09-2023 @ 13:31 
bench
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 8 @ 50kg
1 x 3 @ 80kg
1 x 2 @ 100kg
1 x 1 @ 120kg
1 x 3 @ 137.5kg
1 x 3 @ 152.5kg
1 x 5 @ 112.5kg - narrow grip
2 x 5 @ 122.5kg

ohp machine
1 x 5 @ 50kg
3 x 5 @ 75kg

triceps pushdowns
3 x 12 @ 57kg

rear delts
3 x 12 @ 65kg

shoulder aching and generally tired today. weight moved easy enough but
only 6 days between last heavy bench due to circumstance
will up the gap to 7 days from now.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)26-09-2023 @ 14:11 
Post Edited: 26.09.2023 @ 14:11 PM by matthewvc
diy ssb squats parallel box
2 x 5 @ 20kg
1 x 3 @ 60kg
1 x 3 @ 100kg
1 x 3 @ 130kg
1 x 3 @ 160kg - loose wraps
1 x 3 @ 180kg

leg press
3 x 10 quite light

hamstring curls
1 x 8 @ 35kg
2 x 8 @ 45kg

quads extension
3 x 10 @ 80kg

abs machine
3 x 10 @ 65kg

light easy session to gauge sore SI which curtailed my deads on saturday.
was reasonably pain free.
would like to work these precarious high bar diy safety squats
to around the 235kg mark for a triple and a 6 plate (260kg) single.
» An old, fat fool starts a log. Hope no-one minds (Go to post)25-09-2023 @ 10:47 
Bod said:
Both of those two would have failed tests if WADA had come knocking. Unlike Mo Farah, who claimed that he didn’t answer his door to the testers because his doorbell was broken…
I have reflected on this a while too and although they played a pivotal role in saving Middle Earth, could either of the Baggins’ do what Goatboy does? It is a rhetorical one, of course.


There once was a fellow called Mo
Who liked to take rEPO
if the doorbell did ring
he would run like the wind
and flush the lot straight down the Loo
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)25-09-2023 @ 09:57 
sat
deads 4" rack pulls
2 x 5 @ 20kg
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 3 @ 100kg
1 x 2 @ 140kg
1 x 2 @ 170kg
1 x 2 @ 190kg
1 x 1 @ 210kg - SI joint pain stopped

SLDL
1 x 3 @ 140kg - still painful stopped

seated rows
3 x 8

seated abs
2 x 10

crap aborted session, still sore from yet more post hole laying in garden
and fatigued up the entire back from lower to traps, was hoping to rack pull
227.5kg x 2 but sharp pain in SI meant otherwise
think I'll squat light first as warmup too, don't think jumping straight
into DLs is a good idea either.

sun
bench feet up on bench
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 8 @ 40kg
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 5 @ 80kg
1 x 5 @ 100kg
1 x 5 @ 107.5kg
1 x 5 @ 115kg

diy slingshot using red band wrapped around arms
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 5 @ 100kg
1 x 5 @ 120kg

seated db press
1 x 12 @ 20kg
1 x 12 @ 25kg

seated ohp machine
1 x 8 @ 50kg
2 x 8 @ 65kg

triceps dips machine
1 x 10 @ 50kg
2 x 10 @ 80kg

did feet up as larsens still stress my aching lower back with feet dangling off.
the red band DIY slingshot is quite nice, not too much assistance like my old black
maddog supertraining one (60kg touches quite easy with the band), so hope
this will have more carryover back to raw. aim is to do quite easy but explosive
reps with it rather than trying to do 250kg+ CNS draining max efforts.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)22-09-2023 @ 21:18 
bench
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 6 @ 50kg
1 x 5 @ 80kg
1 x 3 @ 100kg
1 x 3 @ 120kg - bottom up from here
1 x 3 @ 132.5kg
1 x 3 @ 145kg
1 x 5 @ 110kg
1 x 5 @ 115kg

doubled red band
1 x 8 @ 40kg
1 x 8 @ 50kg
1 x 8 @ 55kg

seated ohp machine
1 x 5 @ 50kg
2 x 5 @ 65kg

rear delts machine
3 x 12 @ 50kg

triceps pushdowns
3 x 12

lot of shoulder ache today benching, even the bottom ups
apart from that comfy weights to ease back into a triples build up.
plan is workup triple, back off 2 sets x 5 around 80%
145 x 3, 2 x 5 ~115
152.5 x 3, 2 x 5 ~122.5
160 x 3, 2 x 5 ~130
167.5 x 3, 1 x 5 ~135
172.5 x 3
» TRT THREAD (Go to post)21-09-2023 @ 16:44 
The_Lone_Wolf said:
Interesting RE the gym side of things.
I am not training so have no scale to measure against here, but I feel so weak, tired, lethargic and low that training seems like the last thing I can do currently and that genuinly upsets me.


that's what surprised me as I have the energy to train
and get back up a decent level strength wise,
although I ache and feel recovery sucks nowadays.
That said, not convinced natty levels of testosterone make a huge difference
to strength. 10mg week (hypogonadal) v 30mg week normal is miniscule compared to even what is classed as a low dose cycle that might add 10% max to bench press.
» TRT THREAD (Go to post)21-09-2023 @ 11:25 
The_Lone_Wolf said:
Keep us posted mate please.
I've just been to lunch with a buddy who is about to start his own journey down this path... Booked in for bloods via the NHS to get the ball rolling.
I am still waiting to hear back... So far, no updates at all.


Got NHS bloods next week. I've no idea of timescales via NHS.
Be interested to see what the second reading is.
Low test correlates with my mood, sex drive and energy levels
but doesn't so much with gym performance.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)19-09-2023 @ 21:32 
easy session

larsen press
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 8 @ 40kg
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 3 @ 80kg
1 x 3 @ 100kg
1 x 3 @ 110kg
1 x 3 @ 120kg
1 x 4 @ 110kg
1 x 5 @ 100kg

seated ohp machine
1 x 8 @ 50kg
2 x 8 @ 60kg

triceps dips
1 x 8 @ 50kg
2 x 8 @ 75kg

seated rows
1 x 5 @ 50kg
2 x 5 @ 65kg

triceps pushdowns
2 x 10

all done in about 20 minutes
» TRT THREAD (Go to post)19-09-2023 @ 09:25 
The_Lone_Wolf said:
This is direct from the OptiMale site...


I did their cheap test with this company 3 weeks ago having noticed
a decline in my general energy, sex drive and mood since coming back from Thailand.
came back low 6.7nmol/L (ref: 12-30)
talked to NHS GP and she's arranged a more thorough blood test next week
for stuff like prostate-specific antigen, FSH/LSH and other markers.

what is odd is I've been making pretty good progress at the gym
this indicates that:

1. the result is maybe a spurious low and my mood/apathy is just
a result of being back in a increasingly crap country
(I do notice going back to Thailand is an instant improvement in my general mood)

2. normal physiological levels of test isn't as important it's made out,
especially if you've already got the muscle/nervous system memory, satellite cell
proliferation from previous younger age gains.

Interested to see the results of this full screen.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)17-09-2023 @ 11:19 
Post Edited: 17.09.2023 @ 11:20 AM by matthewvc
did late night sat/16
diy ssb squats parallel box
2 x 5 @ 20kg
1 x 3 @ 60kg
1 x 2 @ 60kg
1 x 2 @ 100kg
1 x 2 @ 120kg
1 x 2 @ 140kg
1 x 2 @ 160kg
1 x 2 @ 175kg - loose wraps
1 x 2 @ 185kg - belt

deadlifts
2 x 3 @ 60kg
1 x 2 @ 100kg
1 x 2 @ 130kg
1 x 1 @ 130kg - stopped lower back/SI not playing today

seated row machine
3 x 5

abs
2 x 10

too much bending over and heavy lifting doing more garden work.
lower back, erectors, traps aching from the off.
also going to switch deads and squats to different days
getting increasingly difficult to do both effectively
as the weights rise.

tue heavy squats
thu bench heavy
sat heavy deads + lighter squats
sun bench light
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)15-09-2023 @ 23:33 
busy and stressed at work first session this week

bench bottom up
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 5 @ 50kg
1 x 3 @ 70kg
1 x 1 @ 70kg
1 x 2 @ 90kg
1 x 1 @ 110kg
1 x 1 @ 130kg
1 x 1 @ 145kg - bottom up from here
1 x 5 @ 160kg
1 x 5 @ 100kg
1 x 5 @ 115kg
1 x 5 @ 130kg

add thick red band doubled
1 x 5 @ 50kg
1 x 5 @ 70kg
1 x 5 @ 85kg - pretty hard

ohp machine
1 x 10 @ 50kg - shoulder aching again
2 x 8 @ 70kg

rope pushdowns
3 x 12

pulldowns palms facing
1 x 8 @ 40kg
1 x 6 @ 66kg
1 x 6 @ 76kg
1 x 6 @ 86kg

straight arm pullovers
2 x 12 @ light

160kg x 5 with a week of too much work,
s**tty eating, poor sleep and clinically low test.
I'll bet my house that my achy shoulder improves
dramatically when I get on HRT and estrogen levels rise.
another more thorough blood test in 2 weeks for FSH, LSH, PSA, RBC
and so on.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)12-09-2023 @ 20:26 
results in from blood test:

testosterona free 0.149 nmol/L range 0.220 - 0.65
testosterona total 6.71 nmol/L range 12 - 30
shbg 25.0 nmol/L range 18 - 40

very low, under 8 is classed as hypogonadal.
I'm amazed I can lift anything.
I now need another more comprehensive test and consultation
(or sod that and consult Dr. Big Rory)
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)11-09-2023 @ 17:47 
bench larsens
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 5 @ 50kg
1 x 5 @ 70kg
1 x 3 @ 90kg
1 x 3 @ 100kg
1 x 3 @ 110kg

seated db press
1 x 8 @ 20kg
1 x 8 @ 25kg

seated ohp machine
1 x 8 @ 40kg
1 x 8 @ 70kg

triceps pushdowns
3 x 12

pulldowns
1 x 5 @ 44kg
1 x 5 @ 66kg
1 x 5 @ 86kg

triceps dips machine
1 x 8 @ 50kg
1 x 8 @ 75kg
1 x 8 @ 100kg

easier session today, could still feel the two pretty heavy efforts prior to this.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)09-09-2023 @ 15:10 
Post Edited: 09.09.2023 @ 15:17 PM by matthewvc
diy ssb squat off parallel box
3 x 5 @ 20kg
1 x 5 @ 50kg
1 x 3 @ 80kg
1 x 2 @ 110kg
1 x 1 @ 140kg - changed bar to thick 22kg ones
1 x 1 @ 140kg
1 x 1 @ 160kg
1 x 1 @ 180kg - add loose wraps
1 x 1 @ 200kg - add belt
1 x 5 @ 220kg - tighter wraps (1 more revolution)

deadlift
1 x 1 @ 60kg
1 x 2 @ 100kg
1 x 2 @ 130kg
1 x 2 @ 140kg
1 x 2 @ 150kg
1 x 2 @ 160kg

sldl
1 x 3 @ 130kg
1 x 3 @ 160kg
1 x 5 @ 182.5kg

seated rows
1 x 8 @ 65kg
1 x 8 @ 80kg
1 x 8 @ 65kg

abs machine
1 x 15 @ 60kg
2 x 15 @ 75kg

unpleasantly hot+humid but I at least had plenty of carbs and fluids in me.
220 x 5 was pretty tough. rest of session suffered a bit as a result of
both this and the heat, but glad to be repping 5 plates on squats.
once I get in a monolift, proper squat bar and a lower bar position
shouldn't be far off a wrapped 300kg.
the straps ssb setup is a very precarious, very high bar position, but it saves my
shoulders trying to squeeze under a bar in a power rack.


comeback total 220-180-240 640kg

also waiting for a blood test result for testosterone levels.
whilst I am making rapid progress in the gym, it's all very 'muscle memory'
and outside I definitely feeling tired, low sex drive, low motivation.
if low, TRT will no doubt improve both this and my gym lifts.
» TRT - Thai Replacement Training (Go to post)07-09-2023 @ 23:20 
decided to try again late at night

bottom up bench paused
2 x 10 @ 20kg
1 x 5 @ 40kg
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 3 @ 80kg
1 x 2 @ 100kg
1 x 1 @ 120kg
1 x 1 @ 140kg - off pins now
1 x 5 @ 155kg
1 x 5 @ 100kg
1 x 5 @ 115kg
1 x 5 @ 125kg

doubled red band
1 x 5 @ 60kg
1 x 5 @ 80kg

seated ohp
1 x 5 @ 50kg
2 x 10 @ 70kg

v-grip pushdowns
1 x 12 @ 20kg
2 x 10 @ 30kg

face pulls
2 x 10

palms facing pulldowns
1 x 8 @ 44kg
1 x 8 @ 55kg
1 x 8 @ 66kg

155 x 5 not too hard in the end.
far cooler
far more hydrated
far less stressed
amazing how much lighter weights feel when everything is in place.
once this block is done, I'll move the heavy days to the weekend.

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