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bruce | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 12:43 | |
a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Boar said:On the flipside , there is nothing worse than seeing some poor guy struggle to even clean a log for a full 75 seconds ! When the 105 northern wasn't doing max log , it was 110 for reps , you don't want this comp to be an exclusive comp for the big guns of the 80 division, putting off the weaker guy from even entering, ofcourse that is unless you hold qualifiers, then you can f**k the weaklings ! It is bsm tho mate surely it should be attracting the big guns and the weaker lads should not be entering. | ||
Flash | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 12:49 | |
King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Boar said: ofcourse that is unless you hold qualifiers, then you can f**k the weaklings ! Brutal for them. Bit gay as well. In all seriousness though, I can understand the point boar, but tend to lean towards Liam's point. I also think, just cause you are unable to do one event, this shouldn't detract you from doing the comp as there are 6 other events as I think points will taken by everyone. Look at the log at BSM u90 last year. A few were struggling with a rep on the weight before hand, but at the comp turned up and smashed it. People said it was heavy, still turned up and got on. I no this had qualifiers and the weaklings were f**ked but it still relates in some way | ||
bruce | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 12:59 | |
a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Flash said: Brutal for them. Bit gay as well. In all seriousness though, I can understand the point boar, but tend to lean towards Liam's point. I also think, just cause you are unable to do one event, this shouldn't detract you from doing the comp as there are 6 other events as I think points will taken by everyone. Look at the log at BSM u90 last year. A few were struggling with a rep on the weight before hand, but at the comp turned up and smashed it. People said it was heavy, still turned up and got on. I no this had qualifiers and the weaklings were f**ked but it still relates in some way Completely agree mate, I dint mean if u couldn't do one event don't do it, but if it only has 12 spots it need the 12 best in it. Also the 90s bsm log was bloody heavy and I think most of us felt we may no rep it but we training like f**k and most were rewarded for training so hard, this is only the same | ||
MrSmall | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:01 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Boar said:On the flipside , there is nothing worse than seeing some poor guy struggle to even clean a log for a full 75 seconds ! When the 105 northern wasn't doing max log , it was 110 for reps , you don't want this comp to be an exclusive comp for the big guns of the 80 division, putting off the weaker guy from even entering, ofcourse that is unless you hold qualifiers, then you can f**k the weaklings ! Even with lighter weights, the strongest guy always wins anyway. When has Mark "unfit" Clegg ever lost a deadlift, log for reps event? NEVER EVER | ||
MrSmall | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:02 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Boar said:Dragons had a 105 log for reps if I recall and I won that event with a meagre 4 reps ... there will be a few who can smash 110 , but for most it will be a struggle and an event that looks like what it is .... too heavy ... you say its bsm but will it have qualifying criteria or can any u80 compete ? Lots of those looking to say they competed in bsm probably won't manage a 110 and no amount of 'training harder ' will change that KNOWLEDGE | ||
brownbear | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:03 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | without being a dick, its only britains strongest man u80 cause you say it is. it's not an invitational comp and there's no regional qualifiers or national comp before it. also- 110 log at bsm versus 100 axle at arnolds ? | ||
MrSmall | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:11 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | The arnold's u80 is pretty light anyway isn't it?? | ||
brownbear | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:12 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:The arnold's u80 is pretty light anyway isn't it?? im pretty sure shanes the one who called it heavy crossfit? | ||
RDubz | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:15 | |
English born and bred Member 2537, 298 posts | If this is a comp only for the top 10-12 guys in country then the weights are spot on. If its for finding the strongest AND gettin new blood into the sport then its to heavy. u80 has the potential to be bigger than the u90s, which can only be a good thing for the sport | ||
RDubz | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:19 | |
English born and bred Member 2537, 298 posts | at least we have a comp like this being put on, well done Mike. things take time, all will be good in a few years | ||
bruce | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:22 | |
a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | brownbear said:without being a dick, its only britains strongest man u80 cause you say it is. it's not an invitational comp and there's no regional qualifiers or national comp before it. also- 110 log at bsm versus 100 axle at arnolds ? Things do take time mate, maybe in a year or 2 there maybe enough interest to do qualifiers, or who knows 40 lads may want to do it this yr and qualifiers may be needed, also yanks are soft that's y this is heavier lol | ||
Flash | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 13:30 | |
King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Regarding the axel/log debate, the axel at Arnold's is 102.5kg for reps, yes. But no belt cleans are allowed, which at 80kg is quite a limiting factor I think. Yes, you can belly or power clean it. But a belly clean at 80 is difficult, as is a power clean as most of us have tiny hands. So I my eyes, it's all relative. This is what the country needs, as why should we not send people to the Arnold's. The yanks and ozzies do every year, and it is growing massively year on year. In order to get it exposure, I feel it has to be called BSM. Whether it deserves it as there are no qualifiers, who knows. But the quality of last years event certainly warranted this title in my eyes. This years proposed event doesn't make me change my mind on this either | ||
DomRedshaw | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 16:36 | |
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | some good points being raised in here which il stick my unwanted nose into. smalls not always the strongest wins, iv lost log for rep events to ppl with lower maxes than myself cos its been too light n im gassed after a few reps. maybe a rarity as my fitness is extremely poor. liam in regards to asking neil about running a qual, im sure hed spoke to clegg about doing BSM u80 this year. i agree with adam about BSM not having as much meaning with the lack of quals unless it was unlimited on entrants. liam id like to think the u80s will grow in time but if theres only 1 comp a year thats pretty heavy its not going to attract any one new. i think a good option wud be for a couple of ppl to get together and organise some quals and take the gamble of them filling up or not. personally id run 2 quals, north n south. scots do north, welsh does south, midlanders do closest to them. if theres alot of interest hold more quals next year. if theres going to be an u80 arnolds every year then uk needs to up its game | ||
vausie | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 18:03 | |
in real life im massive like big fridge Member 1317, 7144 posts SQ 220, BP 147.5, DL 290657.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | Best pull my finger out then flash- about the top 3 from last year automatically qualifying who was announced in in 3rd i saw u slip tht fiver to ben | ||
bruce | ... | 28-02-2013 @ 18:09 | |
a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Dom I agree on how the quals could work but again it would depend on interest maybe a separate thread to get a list of the under 80 s lads that would want to do it. But u can't expect organiser to risk there money to put on a comp for 3 people I have already spoke to Neil about putting on 2 more comps. One is an under 80s open to everyone. And other other is a 90s invertational that I wanted to do last yr but dint get chance in the end | ||
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