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Wayne_Cowdrey24/03/17 @ 12:47
BrenWad24/03/17 @ 13:36
LessThanLuke said:
Yup. I think people forget this.
Yup. I think people forget this.
Add in his 500lb seated pressing, 200kg behind neck pressing...scary how strong he would be in todays field.
Draken24/03/17 @ 13:41
BrenWad said:
Kaz was as strong in squat, bench and powerlifting raw deadlift as anybody competing now.
Kaz was as strong in squat, bench and powerlifting raw deadlift as anybody competing now.
LessThanLuke said:
Yup. I think people forget this.
Yup. I think people forget this.
... and I think you forget that Kaz was one of the very few who lifted those weights. Neither Jon Pall, Ahola nor Samuelsson or Ver Magnússon was close to those weights.
Kaz was one of a kind, and what he could have accomplished today, if he ate himself up to Ed-size and trained like today's professionals ... I can't imagine.
AdamT24/03/17 @ 13:51
I actually think for his time, Kaz was stronger than any of them. His numbers were HUGE for his bodyweight and his time. Kaz could of won far more comps if he never had the break from competing.
BrenWad24/03/17 @ 14:21
AdamT said:I actually think for his time, Kaz was stronger than any of them. His numbers were HUGE for his bodyweight and his time. Kaz could of won far more comps if he never had the break from competing.
His 300kg bench in a tshirt is still amazing. Barely any arch, skinny bench.
BrenWad24/03/17 @ 14:22
Draken said:
... and I think you forget that Kaz was one of the very few who lifted those weights. Neither Jon Pall, Ahola nor Samuelsson or Ver Magnússon was close to those weights.
Kaz was one of a kind, and what he could have accomplished today, if he ate himself up to Ed-size and trained like today's professionals ... I can't imagine.
... and I think you forget that Kaz was one of the very few who lifted those weights. Neither Jon Pall, Ahola nor Samuelsson or Ver Magnússon was close to those weights.
Kaz was one of a kind, and what he could have accomplished today, if he ate himself up to Ed-size and trained like today's professionals ... I can't imagine.
330 and lean at 6ft 3. 40lbs of bodyweight and he'd have slotted into todays comps nicely.
Funky_monkey24/03/17 @ 16:07
Post Edited: 24.03.2017 @ 16:07 PM by Funky_monkey
Wayne_Cowdrey said:Shouldn't there be a question mark in the thread title?
I'm not only non-English, but I now don't even live in Englandshire!
AdamT24/03/17 @ 17:25
BrenWad said:
330 and lean at 6ft 3. 40lbs of bodyweight and he'd have slotted into todays comps nicely.
330 and lean at 6ft 3. 40lbs of bodyweight and he'd have slotted into todays comps nicely.
Easily. His 170 log was all power. Them logs weren't balanced like today. Man was a beast. Still looks huge.
scruffmcbuff24/03/17 @ 18:08
AdamT said:
Easily. His 170 log was all power. Them logs weren't balanced like today. Man was a beast. Still looks huge.
Easily. His 170 log was all power. Them logs weren't balanced like today. Man was a beast. Still looks huge.
Still looks good. I especially liked his Geoff Capes taunt on giants live last year "geoff was faster then me to the buffet table"
drex5024/03/17 @ 19:51
AdamT24/03/17 @ 20:07
drex50 said:Answers are obvious...
Insulin, quality gh for those who can afford it, competing 2 times a year.
Insulin, quality gh for those who can afford it, competing 2 times a year.
Does Kaz have the best strength genetics ever?
drex5024/03/17 @ 20:13
Post Edited: 24.03.2017 @ 20:21 PM by drex50
AdamT said:
Does Kaz have the best strength genetics ever?
Does Kaz have the best strength genetics ever?
Depends on how u understand genetics.
If genetics is about handling huge amount of drugs .... for sure hes a freak. Is he strong naturally, how can anybody know, he takes drugs since teenager.
This is the main misconception in strength sports including bodybuilding. Ive been saying it many times. Just because someone is strong naturally doesnt mean he will be massivelly stronger on drugs. Different people respond very different on drugs. Ive witnessed this so many times. For me the best are those who respond tremendously good or take a lot and not get serious health problems.
Training, eating, sleeeping everybody does it, but responding great ... a few do it.
Drugs put into sport big subjectiveness, thats why u cant say who has the best potential, but for sure u can say who wins the competition and this is what remains in the history.
Mikeneto24/03/17 @ 22:14
Most if not all of the top strongmen were good at sports before they took drugs.
But drug response is a part of it for sure. But saying it is all drugs undermines their hardwork and genetics.
But drug response is a part of it for sure. But saying it is all drugs undermines their hardwork and genetics.
BrenWad25/03/17 @ 10:16
AdamT said:
Does Kaz have the best strength genetics ever?
Does Kaz have the best strength genetics ever?
Perhaps best overall genetics for strength, size, staying lean. Still a huge man today.
AdamT25/03/17 @ 10:26